Christian author defends Archbishop's nativity 'legend' remarks
Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2007, 11:08 (GMT)
Shortly after the head of the worldwide Anglican Communion drew fire for dismissing one popular aspect of the nativity story as a “legend” the week before Christmas, a Christian author and speaker defended the church leader and criticised British media for going “berserk.”
“I heard the interview yesterday and at no point did Rowan Williams deny the historicity of the nativity accounts – he just tried to point out what they actually say, as opposed to what people think they say,” wrote Christian author and blogger Nick Page in a web log Thursday.
In an interview with BBC Radio Five, Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams had indicated that Scripture does not describe the magi as commonly depicted in nativity stories and scenes.
“Well Matthew's gospel doesn't tell us that there were three of them, doesn't tell us they were kings, doesn't tell us where they came from, it says they're astrologers, wise men, priests from somewhere outside the Roman Empire,” he said. “That's all we're really told so, yes, 'the three kings with the one from Africa' – that's legend; it works quite well as legend.”
The next day, the Telegraph newspaper published an article with the headline “Archbishop says nativity ‘a legend’”.
“All he (Williams) does is point out what is actually in the Bible and some pinheads who pass for journalists at the Telegraph go berserk. (One of whom, apparently, is the Editor -in-chief of the Catholic Herald. He really should know better.),” pointed out Page in the Archbishop’s defense.
“Actually reading the Bible, as opposed to glancing at the Christmas cards, reveals that not only was there no kings, there was no stable and, in all probability, no inn,” he continued, noting that the word usually translated as “inn” actually means “guest room.”
This week, Page released his latest book – ”Whatever happened to the Ark of the Covenant?” – in which he asserts that Jesus was not born in a stable and that Mary and Joseph were not turned away by a hard-hearted inn-keeper.
”Every nativity play, every nativity scene, every Christmas card – they have all got it wrong,” says Page, whose latest book looks at over 30 “mysteries” of the Bible.
”The actual Greek word used by Luke doesn’t refer to an inn at all, but to a guestroom. Most likely Mary and Joseph were lodging with relatives. There wasn’t enough room, so they were sleeping in the place where the animals are kept,” he explains.
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Added: Sunday, December 23, 2007, 21:01 (GMT)
Christmas and the Three Wise Men
The Archbishop of Canterbury,
Rowan Williams, has given his view
that the story of the three wise
men, coming from the east, who
followed the star to Bethlehem
is nothing more than a legend.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317885,00.html
Theophrastus [372-288/7 B.C.],
the disciple of Aristotle,
mentions that: "Among the
plants that grow in Arabia,
Syria and India the aromatic
plants are somewhat exceptional
and distinct from the plants of
other lands; for instance,
frankincense, myrrh, cassia,
opobalsam, cinnamon and all
other such plants," as noted
in Greek and Latin Authors
on Jews and Judaism, Vol. I,
page 15, # 7. . . . The wise
men from the east who came
into the house where Jesus
the Christ lived as a young
child (St. Matthew, 2:1-11),
saw Him with Mary his mother,
and fell down, and worshipped
Him: and when they had opened
their treasures, they presented
unto Him gifts; gold, and
frankincense, and myrrh.
Jesus was approximately, a child
aged 1-2 years old, at the time
of the visit of the wise men.
Gold was sent annually to the
Temple at Jerusalem, from communal
contributions, suggesting the
wise men from the east came as
legal and lawful representatives
from Syria, Arabia, India or beyond.
http://www.academic-genealogy.com/tingeo1.htm
Furthermore, "Saying, Where is he
that is born King of the Jews? for we
have seen his star in the east, and
are come to worship him." is more
correctly translated as: "Where is
the child that is born, the Messiah
of the Jews? . . ."
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/2/2b
The incorrect translation contradicts
John 18: 36
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not
of this world: if my kingdom were of
this world, then would my servants
fight, that I should not be delivered
to the Jews: but now is my kingdom
not from hence." Note the word NOW.
The only ancient group that was interested
in "the Messiah of the Jews?" was of
course, those of the House of Israel.
http://www.academic-genealogy.com/tingeo1.htm
Hadrian (Sciptores Historiae Augustae,
Quadrigae Tyrannorum 8.3) remarks that
there is no chief of a synagogue who is
not an astrologer (mathematicus), soothsayer
(haruspex), or anointer (aliptes). Moreover, in
the middle of the second century, Vettius Valens,
in his astrological work, Anthologiae (2.28,29),
refers to Abraham as a most wonderful astrological
authority. Vitruvius (I.3-10) enjoined first century A.D.
architects to study astronomy so that they might
'learn the direction of points, the orders of the
heavens, the equinoxes and solstices and the
movement of the stars' and 'to understand
how clocks and sundials work'
I further refer you to:
Moneychangers in the Temple
By Dr. Lee Warren, B.A., D.D. (c)
1999 PLIM REPORT, Vol. 8 #3
http://www.plim.org/1Moneychangers%20in%20the%20Temple.htm
. . .
"To accomplish this requires knowledge
of the Law of Moses concerning the half-shekel
of gold, which was atonement money for Israel
(Ex. 30:12-16), and the priests collection of it
at the time of the Messiah."
. . .
"For annually, on the 1st of Adar while
(the month before the Passover), proclamation
was made throughout the country by messengers
sent from Jerusalem of the approaching Temple tribute.
On the 15th of Adar the money-changers opened
stalls throughout the country to change the various
coins, which Jewish residents at home or settlers
abroad might bring, into the ancient money of Israel."
. . .
"Those Jews coming from foreign lands with foreign
currency or those that had Roman coins had to have
these coins changed by the moneychangers." . . .
Continuing: Ritualwell
http://www.ritualwell.org/holidays/roshchodeshnewmoon/adar/primaryobject.2005-06-28.8583807523
"Adar I comes at the same time as the secular
months February/March." Average Temperature
in Jerusalem (modern) is High Feb (56) Mar (61)
Apr (70); Low Feb (40) Mar (43) Apr (49). Note:
"The rise of the Church of Christ in these last days,
being one thousand eight hundred and thirty years
since the coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus
Christ in the flesh, it being regularly organized
and established agreeable to the laws of our
country, by the will and commandments of God,
in the fourth month, and on the sixth day of the
month which is called April-- "
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/20
The Works of Josephus, Complete and Unabridged,
New Updated Edition published 1987, The Antiquities
of the Jews, Book 18, Chapter 3, page 480, verse 3.
(63), states: . . . "condemned him to the cross
{b} A.D. 33. April 3., those that loved him at the
first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them
alive again the third day {c} April 5.,"
Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, at the start
of his ministry, circa 30 years old. His ministry lasted
three years as noted in the Book of John, Jesus thus
appears to have been born circa April 6 and died circa
April 3, thirty-three years later, in seasonal weather.
For the wise men to give their gold to the child, Jesus
the Christ, was recognition of the fact that He was
indeed the Messiah, as it was "atonement" money.
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Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year
Tom Tinney, Sr. and Family
Family Genealogy & History
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and Genealogy Portals to the World.
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Thomas M Tinney Sr, West Sacramento, CA (USA)
